Liberals Are Not Pro-Abortion

Published on January 28, 2006 By stevendedalus In Politics

Most of us considerably left of center do not think of ourselves as pro-abortion. Rather, it is up to the woman, and perhaps the man implicated, who must under trying circumstance make the weighty decision to abort. Contrary to the conservative perception, liberals do not encourage abortion, but simply that it is out of the jurisdiction of politics even though some may indeed think of it as a questionable murderous process resting with the individual conscience of the decision-maker[s]. Many liberals do feel that it is rightfully a religious matter for the devoted who should seek religious counsel. Liberals do not publicly frown on those who for whatever reason make the momentous choice.

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Comments (Page 6)

drmiler

on Feb 19, 2006

How is it one has the inviolate right to bear arms is somehow translated to a woman must bear children?

How is it that one even remotely begins to tie into the other? One (the right to keep and bear arms) is a "constitutional" right, the other is NOT! No matter how you spin this one you're wrong. Abortion is "not" a constitutional right.

stevendedalus

on Feb 20, 2006

Abortion is "not" a constitutional right.

True but the analogy still stands. It is a constitutional right for a woman to choose, rightly or wrongly. Just as I have a right not to bear arms except in war.

stevendedalus

on Feb 20, 2006

your whole argument is a fallacy.

My comment perhaps but not the blog. It is an age-old canon that sex is for the purpose of procreation--period.

bakerstreet

on Feb 20, 2006

No one here seems to be arguing that it is just for procreation. I have no urge to procreate and I have sex all the time. So far we are abortion free. The fallacy is that without abortion women would be baby machines, or if pregnancy DOES occur that they are tied to the child for 18 years whether they can raise it or not..

on Feb 25, 2006

If there were no options for preventing conception, I might be more of a mind to accept abortion. That is not the case obviously.

One way of preventing conception, and thereby abortion, is to stop and think with your brain before you let hormones take over and do your thinking for you.
Use a condom or IUD; take the pill. Both. Whatever. If you don't....THAT's your "choice".

Is rape a choice? Will rapist use condom? Heck no. Also, he will not force woman to take a pill and wait till it takes effect. He'll just go for it and leave. Now, based on your argument, she will be unable to get a abortion and rapist now have a son/daughter without having to take care of it.

Also, each time you make abortion illegal, people will revert to using homebrew abortion tool. That have caused many deaths.

kingbee

on Feb 25, 2006

more than once i've seen assurances here in ju that women would still be able to opt for legal abortions should roe v wade be overturned in favor of states regulating abortion.

should south dakota's proposed legislation be enacted and (as intended) enable the current supreme court to reverse roe v wade, yall will perhaps be able to understand why i have a problem with taking things on faith (especially faith in those sorta assurances).

i doubt i'm gonna hear a lotta complaining from those who've spent the last 30 years infuriated by the unfairness of a small group of people they didn't elect imposing their beliefs on the rest of the country.

stevendedalus

on Feb 26, 2006

No one here seems to be arguing that it is just for procreation.

Again true, yet when conservatives insist that there be abstention in order to avoid procreation it is implied that sex reflects that we go forth and multiply.

Also, each time you make abortion illegal, people will revert to using homebrew abortion tool.

These self-ordained moralists seem to forget that the dangerous and unhealthy clandestine practice prevailed before the court ruling. It's like going back to prohibition.

stevendedalus

on Feb 26, 2006

more than once i've seen assurances here in ju that women would still be able to opt for legal abortions should roe v wade be overturned in favor of states regulating abortion.

and if their foolish daughters "let their hormones take over" will the parents establish residence SD to preclude them from exercising choice?

kingbee

on Feb 26, 2006

will the parents establish residence SD to preclude them from exercising choice?

they wont need to if sd's new law succeeds in taking down roe v wade. it'll be like we're all livin in south dakota...only without sturgis or, for that matter, the black hills.

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