Constructive gadfly
Published on September 9, 2004 By stevendedalus In Politics

When dealing with Senate votes, there is indeed a multilayered beast that lurks in the halls and closets of flip-floppers. Voting against the B1 bomber may be because you object to $800 toilet seats buried in the bill; or that the B52 bomber has performed magnificently for half a century. Voting for body armor could entail the omission of explosive-proof steel plates for humvees nor more tanks against the insurgents.

When President, however, there is the luxury of taking on the appearance of decisiveness because he is the boss and answers to no one, particularly when high in the polls. However, for the current occupier of the White House, the resolve is not present:

          Homeland security is but another proposal for big government and more union workers. … On the other hand, as long as the department is union-free, and can prove Dems are unpatriotic for holding out, then he’s for it.

          Though warned that Bin Laden was determined to strike within our borders, the decision was made that vacation and the golf course were more important.

          The 9/11 Commission was at first perceived as “out to get the president” and was, of course, rejected; that is, until articulate 9/11 familes of victims pushed forward.

          The Saddam link to Al Qaeda was a simple equation by the Vice President, not the President who merely believed it was a longshot to keep the juices for war flowing.

          He was loyal to Chalibi, until he decided to raid the defector’s office for espionage.

          He assured the Vice President that it was up to the states to decide on gay marriage but then proposed a federal constitution amendment defining marriage.

          He demanded lower fuel prices from OPEC, but then decided that the free market should be allowed to gouge, keeping Saudi friends happy.

          He agreed with Gore that there should be a lock box on social security but resolutely raided the source in behalf of trillions for tax cuts.

          At the outset of the war in Afghanistan he wanted Bin Laden “dead or alive, now the terrorist is irrelevant.

          When he urged the UN to become relevant and insist on WMD inspections in Iraq, but when the inspectors were making headway, he told them to get out of Iraq because war was inevitable.

          During the 2000 campaign he wanted tax cuts for the low end, as president he reversed that promise.

          He was intent on searching out terrorists throughout the globe but decided they were all in Iraq.

          The resolve to win the war in Iraq terminated on the aircraft carrier.

          He ran as a compassionate conservative president and became an impassioned, wartime commander in chief set out to democratize the globe and ignore his constituency on the basis that one cannot live on bread alone when in fear.

If the President is not a flip-flopping swivel-head, then there is no truth nor justice in the nation.

    

Copyright © 2004 Richard R. Kennedy All rights reserved. Revised: September 9, 2004.


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on Sep 09, 2004
Nicely done.

I agree with you generally, but I also want the charge of "flip flopping" qualified (if not abandoned) in both cases. So, for example, some argue that some of President Bush's flip flops from campaign promises (nation building, world police, etc.) are a direct result of 9/11 changing the political landscape. Fair enough. But if there are contextual influences and nuances to his flip flops, then we should also assume and do our best to take into account the reasons for Kerry's so-called flip flops. But of course, that isn't politically expedient.

I am still scratching my head at the teflon nature of President Bush -- "Slick Willy" aint got nothing on him. Maybe it's because the Dem/liberal response to charges against our candidates is "Yes, but..." while GOP/conservatives respond "Nuh-uh! Besides your guy is a BILLION times worse..." I worry that we are getting to the place where no one can concede a point, where the President can't think of a single mistake he's made in office, and where his advocates seriously believe he has never told ONE lie.

Thanks for the catalogue of flip flops -- looks like it is going to be a season for sandals.
on Sep 09, 2004
I'm in agreement here: flip-flops are history; campaigns are the future.
on Sep 09, 2004
I dunno, were reporters in 1943 asking FDR about his mistakes?

I think this is a rather contrived list. Most of Kerry's flip-flops seem more blatant. For instance, did you see the picture of Kerry brandishing a weapon he wanted to ban?
on Sep 09, 2004
Ah, my relentless gadfly again! You're simply too much for me. Was the brandishing as a civilian or as a military man? Besides, he, too, is much into hunting. FDR was in fact severely criticized for neglecting the Pacific Theatre of War--his resolve was that it was more significant to take out Hitler. 
on Sep 10, 2004
Well done, did you ever notice how some of the better written blogs actually seem to receive less feedback and tend to sink like a rock in the JU forums?
on Sep 10, 2004
Well, you have outdone yourself again. These are great examples and you really have to wonder why people keep accusing Kerry of being the flip flopper and why they are considering voting this guy in for another four years! It boggles my poor mind.
on Sep 10, 2004

did you ever notice how some of the better written blogs actually seem to receive less feedback and tend to sink like a rock in the JU forums?
Aye, I'm used to the sinking ship.


The "poor mind" is the domain of conservatives who do not admit to boggling.

on Sep 10, 2004
Most of Kerry's flip-flops seem more blatant. For instance, did you see the picture of Kerry brandishing a weapon he wanted to ban?


No. What are you talking about? Because someone holds a weapon either as a soldier or as part of a photo-op for the press, does this somehow negate the fact he thinks it's sensible to ban it for the common citizenry? This isn't flip-flop, unless I'm not understanding something here.

Anyway, good article, SD. It's nice to see the president's flip-flops laid out too.

JW
on Sep 11, 2004
Very well done man.

I think this is a good blog now... but I might change my mind...
on Sep 11, 2004
stevendedalus: Great post.

on Sep 11, 2004

Reply #8 By: Jay Walker - 9/10/2004 10:40:43 PM
Most of Kerry's flip-flops seem more blatant. For instance, did you see the picture of Kerry brandishing a weapon he wanted to ban?


No. What are you talking about? Because someone holds a weapon either as a soldier or as part of a photo-op for the press, does this somehow negate the fact he thinks it's sensible to ban it for the common citizenry? This isn't flip-flop, unless I'm not understanding something here.

Anyway, good article, SD. It's nice to see the president's flip-flops laid out too.

JW


For God's sake Jay he's holding a "shotgun" not a supposed "assualt weapon"! Why would it be sensible to ban a "shotgun" from the common citizenry?
on Sep 11, 2004

Reply #8 By: Jay Walker - 9/10/2004 10:40:43 PM
Most of Kerry's flip-flops seem more blatant. For instance, did you see the picture of Kerry brandishing a weapon he wanted to ban?


No. What are you talking about? Because someone holds a weapon either as a soldier or as part of a photo-op for the press, does this somehow negate the fact he thinks it's sensible to ban it for the common citizenry? This isn't flip-flop, unless I'm not understanding something here.

Anyway, good article, SD. It's nice to see the president's flip-flops laid out too.

JW


And BTW it IS a flip-flop! Up until now Sen. Kerry has "voted" across the board against firearms! Now because he's a Presidental candidate he's "for" guns? If that AIN"T a flip-flop I don't know what is!
on Sep 11, 2004
Excellent post on Mr Bush flip flopping.. Now would someone please tell the Kerry Campaign to start jumping on these key points. He does not seem to fire back quick enough to offset all of these silly charges against his character. The only problem with Kerry being elected is his campaign message. Kerry is trying to get a geniune message across on real issues. What Kerry is being accused of Flip Flopping is due to him trying to bring it up with a fresh angle. In the end it does sound like he is flip flopping. There is the recent one where he now says the War was wrong. Some say, oh he is now mimicing Howard Dean. He was for the war before he voted against it.

I did not explain it clearly above as I should have. If you look at everything the man said he did not change his stance at all. He just worded it differently. The fact is he would have pressured Saddam the same way but with a real coalition. I am sure if the world did not go along with making Saddam finally live up to the deal he signed he would have went in anyways. Kerry has more common sense about Wars then anyone in the Bush administration I feel. Of course this is my own opinion and not backed up by anything.

Oh if you REALLY investigate his voting record he did not vote against anything unless the bill was full of added pork. I investigated every single vote he did over the past 20 years. He did not vote against anything like the GOP supporters are saying. It just is not true at all no matter how many different ways you try to say it.
on Sep 11, 2004
Oh if you REALLY investigate his voting record he did not vote against anything unless the bill was full of added pork. I investigated every single vote he did over the past 20 years. He did not vote against anything like the GOP supporters are saying. It just is not true at all no matter how many different ways you try to say it.
You ARE indeed a fox! Thanks for the research.
on Sep 11, 2004
For God's sake Jay he's holding a "shotgun" not a supposed "assualt weapon"! Why would it be sensible to ban a "shotgun" from the common citizenry?


As I said, I didn't see the picture. No need to yell at me. I asked for further clarification "No. What are you talking about?".

JW
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