Constructive gadfly
Published on September 9, 2004 By stevendedalus In Politics

Bush misled the congress into thinking that by its preapproval to go to war was to emphasize its unified will to be used as a symbolic threat that we would no longer tolerate Saddam’s defiance of sanctions and inspections. Bush, moreover, abused his soaring approval rating to instill fear of imminent danger from a tin-horn dictator who was severely weakened by the Gulf War, and yet rushed to war, defying world opinion.

Now that the war is here Kerry needs to impress on the voters that the current status in Iraq is a clear indication that the domino theory of democratizing the Muslim world will never materialize by our heavy hand, but only through a backdoor policy of the UN and major allies to rebuild Iraq and through active diplomatic relations in the rest of the Middle East to begin the development of modernity, together with firmly renouncing Israel’s blatant expansionism and Palestine’s horrific terrorism.

Kerry needs to address the false image of Bush as a strong leader by attacking his weakness in waging a war in a nation — more fearful of imperialism than Saddam — that would not understand preemptive liberation and force-fed democracy, threatening their Islamic beliefs. There is nothing more telling than “mission accomplished” as rude symbolism of Bush’s “miscalculation.” Further, not only has Bush failed in Iraq but has shown no interest in winning Afghanistan. As for the strong leadership on the war on terror, where is it? Iran’s incursions into Iraq is ignored, kidnaping goes unnoticed, the growing casualties of civilians and our troops are swept under the rug, little is done about nuclear material being under lock and key, and North Korea is a problem not on the agenda.

Kerry should be honest about why he voted against the $87 billion Iraqi appropriations: “Look, it was a toss-in protest vote against adding to the deficit because I knew my vote was not needed; had it been I certainly would never deny matériels for our troops. And my gaffe that ‘I actually voted for it before I voted against it’ was in connection to the proposal that it be paid for by rolling back the tax cuts of the affluent.” Also he should explain that he would probably favor the war without the threat of WMD because he really believed Saddam was a threat down the road, but that does not mean that he was in favor of Bush’s incompetent strategy to go it alone.

     

Copyright © 2004 Richard R. Kennedy All rights reserved. Revised: September 9, 2004.


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on Sep 09, 2004
Once again "everyone" seems to have missed the point! WMD's "were" found in Iraq! Just not in the quanities expexted! Lets start with this one. Even tho' it's a little off point.

Syria hiding Iraqi WMD
Posted by: Editor on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 06:00 PM

A relative of Syrian President Bashar Assad is hiding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in three locations in Syria, according to intelligence sources cited by an exiled opposition party.

The weapons were smuggled in large wooden crates and barrels by Zu Alhema al-Shaleesh,
known for moving arms into Iraq in violation of U.N. resolutions and for sending recruits to fight coalition forces, said the U.S.-based Reform Party of Syria.

The party, based in Potomac, Md., regards itself as a secular body comprised of Syrians who want to see the country embrace "real democratic and economic reforms."

One weapons-cache location identified by the sources is a mountain tunnel near the village of al-Baidah in northwest Syria, the report said. The tunnel is known to house a branch of the Assad regime's national security apparatus.

Two other arms supplies are reported to be in west-central Syria. One is hidden at a factory operated by the Syrian Air Force, near the village of Tal Snan, between the cities of Hama and Salmiyeh. The third location is tunnels beneath the small town of Shinshar, which belongs to the 661 battalion of the Syrian Air Force.

The nephew of Zu Alhema al-Shaleesh, Assef al-Shaleesh, runs Al Bashair Trading Co., a front for the Assad family involved prior to the war in oil smuggling from Iraq and arms smuggling into the country. Al-Bashair has offices in Damascus, Beirut and Baghdad.

In an exclusive interview yesterday with the London Telegraph, Assad came close to admitting his country possessed stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction.

Assad told the London paper Syria rejects American and British demands for concessions on weapons of mass destruction, insisting Damascus is entitled to defend itself by acquiring its own chemical and biological deterrent.

He said Israel must agree to abandon its undeclared nuclear arsenal in order for Syria to consider any deal with the U.S.

Last week, the Los Angeles Times reported Al Bashair Trading Co. participated in the smuggling of millions of dollars worth of sophisticated arms and equipment to Saddam Hussein for three years prior to the Iraqi leader's overthrow.

Al Bashair executives met with North Korean firms before the war began, according to the Los Angeles daily. The paper's three-month investigation included the translation of 800 signed contracts found in the Al Bashair Trading Co. office shortly before U.S. troops entered Baghdad.

Just prior to the U.S.-led effort to oust Hussein, SES International Corp. signed at least 50 contracts to supply weapons and gear to Iraq, the Times said, including 1,000 heavy machine guns and up to 20 million rounds for assault rifles.

Not all the weapons were delivered, but some may still be in use by terrorists battling the U.S. occupation forces, the newspaper said.

At least one shipment of arms was completed with the help of the Syrian government in violation of a U.N. arms embargo.

SES International Corp. denied any wrongdoing, while Syria's foreign ministry refused to comment to the Times.

Oh and try this link as well!
http://www.ceip.org/files/pdf/Iraq3FullText.pdf
http://www.ceip.org/files/projects/npp/resources/iraqintell/home.htm



current status in Iraq is a clear indication that the domino theory of democratizing the Muslim world will never materialize by our heavy hand, but only through a backdoor policy of the UN and major allies to rebuild Iraq and through active diplomatic relations in the rest of the Middle East to begin the development of modernity, together with firmly renouncing Israel’s blatant expansionism and Palestine’s horrific terrorism.


Monumental Rip-Off?
Allegations of Widespread Corruption Involve Saddam Hussein, U.N. Senior Officials

By Brian Ross


April 20 — At least three senior United Nations officials are suspected of taking multimillion-dollar bribes from the Saddam Hussein regime, U.S. and European intelligence sources tell ABCNEWS.




One year after his fall, U.S. officials say they have evidence, some in cash, that Saddam diverted to his personal bank accounts approximately $5 billion from the United Nations Oil-for-Food program.

In what has been described as the largest humanitarian aid effort ever undertaken, the U.N. Oil-for-Food program began in 1996 to help Iraqis who were suffering under sanctions imposed following the first Gulf War.

The program allowed Iraq to sell limited amounts of oil, under supposedly tight U.N. supervision, to finance the purchase of much-needed humanitarian goods.

Most prominent among those accused in the scandal is Benon Sevan, the Cyprus-born U.N. undersecretary general who ran the program for six years.

In an interview with ABCNEWS last year, Sevan denied any wrongdoing.

"Well, I can tell you there have been no allegations about me," he said. "Maybe you can try to dig it out." And in a Feb. 10 statement, Sevan challenged those making the allegations to "come forward and provide the necessary documentary evidence" and present it to U.N. investigators.

But documents have surfaced in Baghdad, in the files of the former Iraqi Oil Ministry, allegedly linking Sevan to a pay-off scheme in which some 270 prominent foreign officials received the right to trade in Iraqi oil at cut-rate prices.

"It's almost like having coupons of bonds or shares. You can sell those coupons to other people who are normal oil traders," said Claude Hankes-Drielsma, a British adviser to the Iraq Governing Council.

Investigators say the smoking gun is a letter to former Iraqi oil minister Amer Mohammed Rasheed, obtained by ABCNEWS and not yet in the hands of the United
.


Here's a little something else to chew on.

Credibility, as defined by Mr. Webster, is this: The quality, capability or power to elicit belief; a capacity for belief.

That being said, if any country and/or countries have lost their credibility on the world stage it would have to be Moe, Larry and Curly across the pond; France, Germany and Russia.

Daily our troops in Iraq find weapons that were made in France, weapons that were manufactured and sold to Iraq during the trade embargo as established by UN Resolution. Jacque Chirac is so incredibly corrupt that his own heir apparent to the French presidency sits in a French prison cell. A common idea among the French people is that he is so corrupt he needs to stay in office so that he can use his immunity to stay out of jail. Factor in how much Chirac and his elitist pack of jackals skimmed off the top of the UN Oil-for Food scandal and I would have to say that the French credibility is in question.

Then we have Germany. Here is a country that owes the people of the United States everything. Not only should they apologize every day for being so daft – I hear MoveOn.org’s theme music beginning to play – as to have allowed Hitler to come to power they should be thanking the United States daily for not walking away from them immediately after ridding the world of the Third Reich. We helped to rebuild their country and in recent times – I know sometimes people forget – we made it possible for a little thing called the Iron Curtain to fade to history. A little over a decade later we see Heir Schroeder, his lips firmly planted where Chirac sits so as to allow them both to feel a sense of belonging, refusing to send any troops to help with the reconstruction of Iraq, no matter who the US President is while trying to cover-up the illegal sales of products to Iraq during the embargo period. Schroeder and his minions have lined their pockets with Iraqi Oil-For-Food money as well, just like the French. I would have to add Germany to the list of countries whose credibility is in question.

Then we have the Russians. President Putin, ex-KGB chief and all around good guy. His hands are dirty with UN Oil-for-food money as well. Add to that the fact trade never ceased between Russia and Iraq during the embargo period – I guess the Russians are simply too used to doing things on the black market to care – and we can add Russia to the list of nations that have questionable credibility.

With all that being said, who in their right mind can say that America’s credibility needs to be restored? Well, yes, you’re right, John Kerry, he would say that. He would also say that in order for our current coalition to be legitimate we would have to include France, Germany and Russia in the current efforts to rebuild Iraq. Again, as is the status quo for Mr. Kerry, he would be wrong.

The United States credibility doesn’t need repair. President Bush stated our case and we have delivered freedom to those who were starving for it. While the question of WMD looms heavily in the upcoming US election there are 50 million people in the Middle East who don’t hold the same concern. They are free, many for the first times in their lives. They too have an election coming up. That will happen in January. For John Kerry, it is a good thing he is running in this country rather than Iraq. His credibility over there is shot…come to think of it, if you aren’t protesting the Birkenstock decision…Kerry’s credibility is shot over here as well.

And can you explain to me just why we should let the UN be part of this? Oil for food has already been shown to exsist..

on Sep 09, 2004

too bad youre not on his staff mr d.  exactly the points that need exposition.


 

on Sep 09, 2004

in large wooden crates and barrels


slingshots?  a-bombs?  maybe zell was confused and bush was worried bout the iraqis possessing barrels of spitballs?


why is there no indication as to the type of wmd?  

on Sep 09, 2004
How many democracies has the UN created? We do have active diplomatic relations with most of the Middle East, and we have endorsed the roadmap for peace, which calls for an end to Palestinian terrorism, and the creation of a Palestinian state from land currently occupied by Israel. We are rebuilding Iraq. France has been invited to help, but they don't seem to be interested.

How have kidnappings, Iranian incursions, and deaths been "swept under the rug" or ignored? How has the Iraqi government threatened Islamic beliefs?

What should we be doing about North Korea that we are not already doing? We are currently engaged in multi-lateral diplomacy, the approach you suggested for the Middle East.

on Sep 09, 2004

What should we be doing about North Korea that we are not already doing? We are currently engaged in multi-lateral diplomacy, the approach you suggested for the Middle East.
Yeah, right, once the enthusiasm for war diminished and Powell's status has been somewhat restored. Still,"axis of evil" and preemptive strikes motivated North Korea to become even more of a threat. 

drmiler: I agree with Kingbee--you should be on the "four more years" staff. I simply cannot imagine Saddam entrusting his weapons to anyone else.

on Sep 09, 2004
Reply #5 By: stevendedalus - 9/9/2004 1:13:14 PM
What should we be doing about North Korea that we are not already doing? We are currently engaged in multi-lateral diplomacy, the approach you suggested for the Middle East.
Yeah, right, once the enthusiasm for war diminished and Powell's status has been somewhat restored. Still,"axis of evil" and preemptive strikes motivated North Korea to become even more of a threat.
drmiler: I agree with Kingbee--you should be on the "four more years" staff. I simply cannot imagine Saddam entrusting his weapons to anyone else.


I have plainly stated TIME and AGAIN that I am an extreme right-winger! Never made no bones about it
Here is one of my early posts!


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By: drmiler
Posted: Sunday, September 05, 2004
Message Board: Politics

Ya know I probably don't belong in this fourm. I mean after all I'm a self professed Kerry hater and Bush lover! I'm as ardent a patriot as you ever find! And yes I believe in the symbolism too (DO NOT let me catch you burning the flag! You WILL NOT survive the encounter!)! I'm a military man first and always and believe my commander-in-chief (GW Bush) can do no wrong!
I think Michael Moore is a TOTAL A**! I'm anti-abortion and I'm an isolationist! I believe we should "still" have our kids repeating The Pledge of Alligence, still have prayer in school, and "still" have the ability to punish "our" kids as we see fit! So as far as I'm concerned I think "political correctness" needs to be "flushed" down the TIOLET! I'll be seeing you.

on Sep 09, 2004
Only a Bush Lover can be patriotic, eh? How can you be a military man, as well as a believer in Bush, and be an isolationist?
on Sep 09, 2004

Reply #7 By: stevendedalus - 9/9/2004 2:09:58 PM
Only a Bush Lover can be patriotic, eh? How can you be a military man, as well as a believer in Bush, and be an isolationist?


I have "never" made the statement that only a "Bush-lover" could be a Patriot! And why should they be mutually exclusive?
on Sep 09, 2004
Yeah, right, once the enthusiasm for war diminished and Powell's status has been somewhat restored. Still,"axis of evil" and preemptive strikes motivated North Korea to become even more of a threat.


You mean Kim Jong IL is not a Meglomanical Dictator, thank god I was so worried that he was, thank you for enlightening me.
on Sep 09, 2004
Besides do you mean to tell me that "you" go along 100% with the other candidates proposed policies? This "is" (at least the last time I checked anyway) America. Just because I'm a self professed Bush-lover does not mean that I have to agree with "everything" he says and does!
on Sep 09, 2004

Besides do you mean to tell me that "you" go along 100% with the other candidates proposed policies? This "is" (at least the last time I checked anyway) America. Just because I'm a self professed Bush-lover does not mean that I have to agree with "everything" he says and does!


No lover agrees totally with the beloved, but she will not respect you if you have to put a bag over her head. The key to Bush's policies is the opposite of isolationism


You mean Kim Jong IL is not a Meglomanical Dictator, thank god I was so worried that he was, thank you for enlightening me.


Of course he is a madman, but if you tell him that, then back it up with cohesive strategy.


 

on Sep 09, 2004

Reply #11 By: stevendedalus - 9/9/2004 2:58:49 PM
Besides do you mean to tell me that "you" go along 100% with the other candidates proposed policies? This "is" (at least the last time I checked anyway) America. Just because I'm a self professed Bush-lover does not mean that I have to agree with "everything" he says and does!



No lover agrees totally with the beloved, but she will not respect you if you have to put a bag over her head. The key to Bush's policies is the opposite of isolationism


Okay I'll buy into that, but what about being a military man?
on Sep 09, 2004
Besides , please reread the end of my post.


Just because I'm a self professed Bush-lover does not mean that I have to agree with "everything" he says and does!
on Sep 09, 2004

I'm anti-abortion and I'm an isolationist! I believe we should "still" have our kids repeating The Pledge of Alligence, still have prayer in school, and "still" have the ability to punish "our" kids as we see fit! So as far as I'm concerned I think "political correctness" needs to be "flushed" down the TIOLET! I'll be seeing you.

A little correctness wouldn't hurt when it comes to your own kids. THe nation's sense of patriotism does not depend on the Pledge and Prayer.

Okay I'll buy into that, but what about being a military man?
A military man defends the country from foreign threats which entail fighting abroad. He no longer has the luxury of the minuteman who defends his country on home soil. So, the military cannot be an advocate of isolationism unless it crawls into its missile base waiting to press the button.

on Sep 09, 2004
Okay ya got me there too. I guess I really didn't fully understand what the word meant. Basically What I "meant" was to close our borders and to send the illegals packing!

But I got you on one. I "never" said that pledge and prayer=sense of patriotism.
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