You had me until the civilian trials.  We cant!  It violates every national and international law to put them on trial in a civil court.

Other than that, good point!  And you are still the most dangerous democrat I have ever corresponded with!

Perhaps I misspoke; I was thinking of American citizens so accused. How could I be dangerous? You accused me of being yellow before.LOL

How could I be dangerous? You accused me of being yellow before.

Not you yellow.  But those of your party (since you are a democrat).  ANd dangerous because you are a very sane, rational and logical democrat that does not walk around spouting "4 legs good, 2 legs better".  As is the usual case with other members of your party.

Thanks for the clarification but I really knew what you meant anyway.

 

Just a question Stevendedalus.. When you were Island Hopping in WWII, how many people did you argue deserved their right to trial or writ of habeas corpus?  How much did you protest against the torture that we know went on then? 

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I just want to add a personal note here... I know I come down pretty hard when it comes to your service in WWII.  I just want to let you know that I do admire what you and your fellow servicemembers accomplished then, and I can't imagine the hardships you endured in bringing about the final success the kept us free.

I use my own experiences as examples a lot, and when I can, I try to use what I know about other people's experiences when discussing topics with them.  Please do not mistake my use of experiences as examples for disrespect to you or anyone else of your military era.

I believe that the tribunals should start quickly. Habeas Corpus? If they were actually caught on the battlefield as non-uniformed combatants, I have to say too bad. They should have gotten a bullet.

For any Citizen who is seen to be deserving of interment in Guantanamo, their trial for treason should start as soon as possible. If they are guilty of acts that would cause them to be considered terrorists, then they should get the firing squad. If this is not the case, they should get their day in court, and not be held incommunicado.

Closing camp X-ray at Gitmo doesn't change the fact that we need to do something rather than sitting on these people for however long needed. Who decides what is needed?

The standard for keeping prisoners during war is the duration of the war plus 6 months, or upon an agreement between the warring sides.

The thing is, being a citizen doesn't come with guarentees of government protections at all. This is something we have come to expect only because our modern wars have been fought on foreign soil.

If the battlefields came home, would we be able to afford to grant every citizen their day in court for accusations of espionage, treason or just not getting out of the way quick enough?

Our freedoms and rights are great and should be respected, but if they become so rigid that our enemies can use them as a weapon against us, then we have already surrendered to them.

For any Citizen who is seen to be deserving of interment in Guantanamo, their trial for treason should start as soon as possible. If they are guilty of acts that would cause them to be considered terrorists, then they should get the firing squad. If this is not the case, they should get their day in court, and not be held incommunicado

I agree completely.

Please do not mistake my use of experiences as examples for disrespect to you or anyone else of your military era.

I understood what you were driving at, but it's nice to hear it anyway. I appreciate it.

The standard for keeping prisoners during war is the duration of the war plus 6 months, or upon an agreement between the warring sides.

Excellent point. Except Geezers' point is to make damn sure the prisoners indeed came from the battles in Afghanistan.