Cheney and Early Retirement

Published on April 24, 2006 By stevendedalus In Politics

It’s ludicrous for the Los Angles Times to call for the early retirement of the duly elected Vice President. In fact, even if such a move — surely, inconceivable since Cheney is no Agnew — were contemplated by the President its legality would be questionable.

As a liberal I am disturbed by the trend to kick an administration when it’s down. The American people, rightly or wrongly, elected this administration to carry on its policies of the first four years — that is, in the main, the security of the nation. That the electorate is now apparently displeased is of no consequence: the stage has been set. Talking heads, MSM, retired generals notwithstanding, the country must learn to live with the political reality. And if they are truly dissatisfied, the ‘06 and ‘08 elections will turn it around.

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Comments (Page 1)

Daiwa

on Apr 24, 2006

What common sense. Thank you, steve.

Myrrander

on Apr 24, 2006

Well, I'm a fan of kicking an administration when it deserves to be kicked.

stevendedalus

on Apr 24, 2006

Thank you, steve.

Wow, I finally won one!

stevendedalus

on Apr 24, 2006

it deserves to be kicked.

I preferred kicking the hell out of it when it was on top during the past elections. I have won the right to kick it now, but I won't because I'm not the sort of guy to revel in "I told you so."

Daiwa

on Apr 25, 2006

Don't get too smug, yet, steve. Much too soon for revelling in anything.

Thanks for your decency, nonetheless.

Bahu Virupaksha

on Apr 25, 2006

Bush and the Bushmen have been a disaster not just for the Us but for the world. It is not a matter of kicking an Administration that is down but rather holdinng a band of neocons who plotted a war behind the backs of the American people,imposed graet suffering on the Iraqi people and even now is creating trouble in Iran. The world needs to be safe from that one weapon of mass destruction that is still loose--George W Bush.

Dr Guy

on Apr 25, 2006

Excellent Article. This is why you scare conservatives.

drmiler

on Apr 25, 2006

God, do you "ever" get anything right?

COL Gene

on Apr 25, 2006

First let me say I agree with the premise that the time to act is at the elections of 2006 and 2008.

I believe there are three issues that may rise to reasons for impeachment of Bush and Cheney but the way Congress is controlled by the conservatives there is NO chance of looking at any of these issues in a fair way to see if the impeachment is valid. The three issues are:

The Iraq War
Release of sensitive information
Possible violation of the law regulating wire taps.

The reason why it is so important that the people of our country speak out in the 2006 and 2008 elections is that the policies being followed by Bush and the leadership in Congress are OUT OF TOUCH with what the vast majority want. I can not think of the approach on ANY major issue that is supported by the majority of Americans. That cries out for CHANGE in November of 2006 and 2008.

DJBandit

on Apr 25, 2006

imposed graet suffering on the Iraqi people

I've always been curious as to why the Iraqi people are NOW suffering. So they were happy before we invaded?

The Iraq War

Not a crime because it was approved by Congress, so drop it already. And don't start with the bull about Congress not seeing what Bush saw cause we all know they all saw the same thing.

Release of sensitive information

It is not illegal for the President to declasify information so please grow up already. God you would think you would have learned something by now.

Possible violation of the law regulating wire taps

Possible is not a crime. Everyone knows what happened already yet no one has said he broke the law or has been able to prove it so please, grow a brain already.

Col

Bush has not commited any crimes. Yes he has made many mistakes, to the point that some here who follow him are even admiting it now, that does not make hima criminal. Grow up already, act like the adult you are, if you gonna debate, do it with something worth listening. Not something a child would use to cry about.

Steve

I agree that '06 and '08 are a chance for the American people to start taking control of our nation. It's time for us to let the Gov't know thatb they are there for us and because of us not for themselves by themselves. Even I have to admit that change is a must.

drmiler

on Apr 25, 2006

Col

Bush has not commited any crimes. Yes he has made many mistakes, to the point that some here who follow him are even admiting it now, that does not make hima criminal. Grow up already, act like the adult you are, if you gonna debate, do it with something worth listening. Not something a child would use to cry about.

You're talking to a stone wall Charles. "If" he responds at all it will be to basically tell you that you don't know anything. According to this putz (col), Everything that Bush does is wrong. Everything he's done is a criminal offence and he should be locked away for it. You're right, GW has made some mistakes along the way and some "big" ones at that. But nothing he should be put in jail over

drmiler

on Apr 25, 2006

Steve, thank you for the thread. It is something I've been saying all along, but said it so much better. In fact you said it so well...have a cookie, on me.

COL Gene

on Apr 25, 2006

Impeachment is a political process and it is what Congress says that counts. The Constitution says High Crimes and Misdemeanors (that is what Congress defines) are causes for removal of the President or Vice President.

Congress approved the war predicated on the information Bush gave them. If all the intelligence and military assessment of the danger Saddam posed to this country in 2002 would have been available, there would not have been a war resolution passed by Congress.

The issue is not only is the information classified but does its release harm this country. He could have declassified something that would have aided our enemies or compromised our security.

As to the wire taps, the legality of the actions of Bush has not been determined and until the Supreme Court rules that is an OPEN Question!

DJBandit

on Apr 25, 2006

Impeachment: Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body formally levels charges against a high official of government. Impeachment does not necessarily mean removal from office; it comprises only a formal statement of charges, akin to an indictment in criminal law, and thus is only the first step towards possible removal. Once an individual is impeached, he or she must then face the possibility of conviction via legislative vote, which then entails the removal of the individual from office.

When you can prove a high crime or a Misdemeanor then you can talk, otherwhise STFU.

Congress approved the war predicated on the information Bush gave them. If all the intelligence and military assessment of the danger Saddam posed to this country in 2002 would have been available, there would not have been a war resolution passed by Congress.

You are so predictable Col. They had everything, no wait, let me say that again interms you can understand , THEY HAD EVERYTHING BUSH HAD, GET THAT THRU YOUR THICK HEAD ALREADY. STOP BEING SO IGNORANT AND GROW UP. Get it now?

The issue is not only is the information classified but does its release harm this country. He could have declassified something that would have aided our enemies or compromised our security.

You ignorant fool, was there a law broken? No, STFU, you don't even know what you are saying. "He could have declassified something that would have aided our enemies or compromised our security" you moron, he did not do that and he would not be so stupid as to do that, man you really are the biggest idiot on this site. You wanna impeach a guy for something he could have done. What an idiot.

As to the wire taps, the legality of the actions of Bush has not been determined and until the Supreme Court rules that is an OPEN Question!

Say what you want Col there has yet been a person who can say with complete confidence that Bush broke any wire tapping law. This was all nothing but propaganda from the Left to make Bush look bad. Now if there was no proof, if Bush denied the allegations then maybe you might have something, BUT HE ADMITTED DOING IT HE ADMITTED EVERYTHING AND YET NO ONE CAN SEEM TO FIND ANYTHING THAT WOULD SAY HE BROKE THE LAW. YOU ARE STUPID COL, YOUR HATRED TOWARDS BUSH HAS YOU SO BLIND THAT YOU COULDN'T YOUR HAND IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. Ignorant fool, why don't you go join your buddies at the old folks home and leave the thinking to those who can actually make sense of things, like Steve for example.

stevendedalus

on Apr 25, 2006

Don't get too smug, yet, steve.

With a thanks from Charles and a cookie from drmiler, can I now revel?

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