Constructive gadfly
Published on January 16, 2006 By stevendedalus In Politics

 When it is apparent that the US entered the war undermanned — and the ensuing years’ increasing casualties support this — is it really “supporting our troops” who are there as it were as a brave lost battalion? If it is true that early withdrawal would result in chaos — as if it didn’t now prevail — then why a mere skeletal force to try to maintain minimal order? Is that fair to ask our troops to hold the line, so to speak, without fully reinforcing them? Personally, I think that whether troops remain or not there will still be an unstable Iraq for years to come. It is unrealistic to hope that at some magic moment, Bush will be able to stand-down our troops and declare as in May ‘03, “mission accomplished.”


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on Jan 18, 2006

As much as this pains me to say....on this item, this time you'd be wrong. From Wikipedia.org

You missed my Point Doc.  Yes, they did declare war on us.  Just as Iraq did by violating their cease fire.  However, like Iraq for 12 years, we could have saber rattled and sat back on this side of the ocean and done nothing.  And let Russia and England fight them.  We did chose not to (BTW:  I in no way think we were wrong to aggressively go after Germany and Italy).  I was only drawing a comparison, not making a value judgement.

on Jan 25, 2006
However, like Iraq for 12 years, we could have saber rattled and sat back on this side of the ocean and done nothing.
Again, no comparison. If we ignored the European theater, while fighting the Nips, Hitler would have defeated Britain and the Soviet Union, making it virtually impossible to defeat Hitler who would also have had the atom bomb.
on Jan 25, 2006
However, like Iraq for 12 years, we could have saber rattled and sat back on this side of the ocean and done nothing.
Again, no comparison. If we ignored the European theater, while fighting the Nips, Hitler would have defeated Britain and the Soviet Union, making it virtually impossible to defeat Hitler who would also
on Jan 25, 2006
However, like Iraq for 12 years, we could have saber rattled and sat back on this side of the ocean and done nothing.
Again, no comparison. If we ignored the European theater, while fighting the Nips, Hitler would have defeated Britain and the Soviet Union, making it virtually impossible to defeat Hitler who would also have had the atom bomb.
on Jan 25, 2006
Steven, when will YOU wake up to the fact that comparing war to war isn't some strange mystery?

Face it, you can't accept the comparison simply because you don't want to admit there are MANY comparisons from one war to the next.

The Revelutionary War was not a popular idea. Most of the colonists were either agaisnt independence or just didn't see it as necessary.

With WWII, there are still Americans who say we should never have gotten involved; there were just as many conspiracy theories surrounding our involvment there as in Iraq; Germany was never a direct threat to the U.S.; We were attacked by Japan, and went to war with both Japan and Germany over it; there were a lot more accusations of the government depriving citizens of their rights then than there is now; Our involvement in WWII was a DISMAL failure for the first few years. Thousands of Americans were killed in single days of combat, not over years; there were just as many accusations of our involvement in WWII being more about corperate interests than freedom as there is now with Iraq; The Concentration camps weren't even generally known about before our involvement in WWII, but now they are used as a major justification for getting involved; failed policies of appeasement and containment led to escalations of both WWII and the situation in Iraq; WWII was the result (in part) of Germany breaking the Treaty of Versailles, our return to hostiliities was the result (in part) to Hussein breaking the ceasefire agreement of 1991... Etc, etc, etc!

It's ironic, democrats (and others against the war in Iraq) keep trying to draw a parallel between Iraq and Vietnam (which has little in common), but then refuse to recognize the MANY similarities between this war and the U.S. involvement in WWII.
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