Constructive gadfly
Published on November 18, 2005 By stevendedalus In Politics

To a fault, the extreme conservatives and liberals think they can have everything even though the nation is more or less centrist. For a Creationist to insist that Earth is but 6,000 years old is in clear defiance of anthropology, geology and physics observations and is as bad as saying the world is flat — Thomas Friedman notwithstanding. Nonetheless, liberals should not denigrate but calmly resist any legislation that tries to incorporate such thinking into public school curricula. Moreover, the left should lobby local schools to offer comparative religions and philosophies in high school.

Liberals maintaining that Roe v. Wade is sacrosanct and the sole criterion for choosing nominees to the Supreme Court is self-defeating: they play into the hands of the right by agreeing that this single issue is the only one worthy of consideration and as bad as guns and God determining election results. Liberals should prepare for the worst that a woman’s right to choose is doomed, and if so, pressure for state legislation that a woman’s right to privacy is no less than a man’s and state abortion laws for or against, be stricken from the books.

The controversial national motto of “In God We Trust” should not be allowed to be treated lightly by conservatives attempting to cheapen it by commercially billing it across the land. At the same time liberals should not protest its appearance on currency and learn to live with it as historical existence. Nor should liberals permit the label that atheists are all left wingers, which is simply not the case. Liberals do not care that “under God” is an existential fact of the Pledge even though they would blandly prefer “under egalitarian principles.”

Conservatives’ trumpeting to be against the war in Iraq is to be against supporting our troops is an extremist view devoutly to be quashed; however, it is their right and should be countered with “to support the troops is to save their lives by bringing them home and that the 2,000 plus did not die in vain, but died nobly during the commitment of defending their country, regardless of the politics.” Moreover, “bringing home the troops” is not cut and run but rather a new strategy of cautious withdrawal.

 If we continue to let prevail the fringe groups as though representing the majority, we shall lose our democracy. Further, this is also a lesson for moderate Iraqis to take charge of their own destiny.

 

Copyright © 2005 Richard R. Kennedy All rights reserved. Revised: November 18, 2005.

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on Nov 19, 2005
I dare ANYONE who talks so glibly about needing to stay and finish the job to live the kind of life my husband and I have lived over the past 3 years, and to be faced with the kind of future we're now being faced with and STILL have the same opinion about this shithole we have created for ourselves.


Which is why many of us want our troops, our government, and our nation to continue the fight, knowing full well the impact of that decision and that stance. No glibness involved...

However, I do understand what you mean. Many do see it as an abstract or merely political situation. For you, me, and many, many Americans on both sides of the issue, it is an intensely personal issue with the lives of those we care about heavy on our minds.

The fact is though, we can't afford to take any part of the war against Islamist Jihadists anything short of intensely personal. There isn't a Westerner alive that they wouldn't gladly behead if given the chance. Millions of Nick Bergs would be cause for celebration in their eyes.
on Nov 20, 2005

we might as well send a gold-bordered invitation to any nation or terrorist organization to just come on over...kill some ppl, cause we will turn tail and run.
Afghanistan notwithstanding, eh? I'm tired of those who equate Iraq with the necessary reaction we took against the Taliban after 9/11.

At least he did it "legally" unlike ex-president Bill "draft dodger" Clinton.
Oh, please! No comment.

on Nov 20, 2005

I dare ANYONE who talks so glibly about needing to stay and finish the job to live the kind of life my husband and I have lived over the past 3 years, and to be faced with the kind of future we're now being faced with and STILL have the same opinion about this shithole we have created for ourselves.

Bravo! What a gal!!

on Nov 20, 2005
"Afghanistan notwithstanding, eh? I'm tired of those who equate Iraq with the necessary reaction we took against the Taliban after 9/11.'


Some people consider violating a cease-fire reason to resume fighting. Odd, huh?
on Nov 20, 2005
i have been out of service since sept 96...but really...what does that have to do with anything?

Just because i am not serving now, and your husband is, makes my service mean less? or his mean more? or my service bears me no right to beleive what i believe?

oh, come on, now....I know you don't mean it that way...

I did give up a part of my life to serve....trust me on that one....
on Nov 20, 2005
as far as Saddam goes.....we vowed that we will fight terrorism where it is....Saddam was a terror to his own ppl.

A terror that even JOHN KERRY said not very long after 9/11 that Bush needs to deal with.
on Nov 20, 2005
Afghanistan notwithstanding, eh? I'm tired of those who equate Iraq with the necessary reaction we took against the Taliban after 9/11.


Steven, whether we should have returned to hostilities with Iraq is a much different question than whether or not we should keep fighting there. Whether we like it or not, Iraq as become the epicenter of the war against Islamist Jihadists, and to leave Iraq to them would not only be cowardly, it would be inhuman.

Do people really think that if we pulled out our troops, the bacteria would just go away? Or is it that if we pull our troops we also pull any responsibility of our pull out... as if we could just wash our hands of the aftermath...

Why do you think the bacteria chose to engage us in Iraq instead of Afghanistan. Could it be that they knew that a fight in Afghanistan would be purely military, while a fight in Iraq could be fought in the front pages of newspapers? Hmmmmmmm
on Nov 20, 2005
Whether we like it or not, Iraq as become the epicenter of the war against Islamist Jihadists


that's the whole problem in a sentence ted. what makes it so damn maddening is it didn't have to happen this way. take that defective car analogy (which is defective as presented because iraq wasn't paying us to give them a damn thing) and realign it to fit the circumstances.

we were told we needed to buy a car and that luckily for us, the administration hadda grand used car buying strategy. so now we're stuck with a car that don't work and we can't give it back. obviously were gonna have to keep walkin til we fix it. things would be a lot less contentious if the people responsible for buyin the lemon were to sit down and stfu...instead of braggin about whatta great deal they made.

Why do you think the bacteria chose to engage us in Iraq instead of Afghanistan


the same reason bacteria will choose to colonize your dining room table if you're foolish enough to smear it with agar. create a bacteria-friendly environment and they'll come.
on Nov 20, 2005
Some people consider violating a cease-fire reason to resume fighting. Odd, huh?
No, it isn't odd, but that was not the administration's theme. I argued a long time ago that the Gulf War ended in a cease fire truce, and that we had every right to continue punishing Saddam for that reason alone.
on Nov 20, 2005
Why do you think the bacteria chose to engage us in Iraq instead of Afghanistan. Could it be that they knew that a fight in Afghanistan would be purely military, while a fight in Iraq could be fought in the front pages of newspapers? Hmmmmmmm
Good point but for the omission that the "epicenter" would not have developed in Iraq had we concentrated its annihilation in Afg.
on Nov 20, 2005
A terror that even JOHN KERRY said not very long after 9/11 that Bush needs to deal with.
Why would you use your enemy to validate your posture? Sort of like Bush visiting China. Besides, though I voted for him as "anyone is better than Bush," Kerry indeed was a swivel head--and still is. Which is better staying the course on the wrong street, or hesitating and asking for directions?
on Nov 20, 2005

No, it isn't odd, but that was not the administration's theme. I argued a long time ago that the Gulf War ended in a cease fire truce, and that we had every right to continue punishing Saddam for that reason alone.

That is reason enough. 

YOu are still dangerous!  A liberal that actually makes sense!

on Nov 22, 2005
we were told we needed to buy a car and that luckily for us, the administration hadda grand used car buying strategy. so now we're stuck with a car that don't work and we can't give it back.
The War of Lemons--no one wants to taste its bitterness.
on Nov 28, 2005
The used car analogy is a reason to cut our losses and not throw good lives and money at a bad thing.
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