Constructive gadfly

Comparing a senator’s voting record with that of one in the executive branch is entirely bogus, particularly when cherry-picked senatorial votes of a different era are exploited to make a point in the present. Legislators are bombarded with clauses, amendments, and pork when a bill is up for passage, causing exactly the role of the senate which is a deliberative body, leaving little room for the usual gut reaction of the House of Representatives.

Nevertheless, it is perfectly appropriate to criticize ideological driven votes that clearly show in Kerry’s record that he is unquestionably liberal. Nor is there any doubt that Kerry’s vote against $87 billion for Iraq was politically motivated by his consistent record against tax cuts, and the telling need to show that the affluent make the sacrifice to support the troops and the reconstruction of Iraq. The consistency is patent, for instance, in his vote to reduce the original 2001 tax cut proposal by $448 billion so that half of it would go to the support of public education and the rest to paying down the debt. As for questioning in today’s context blank checks for defense and intelligence in the midst of the era of the “peace dividend” when even Cheney as secretary of defense was for holding the war industry complex in check, is to say the least a cheap shot.

Kerry’s liberal record is barely touched on because the administration does not really want to talk from its clear weakness in domestic issues. Kerry has voted innumerable times against taxpayer funds for vouchers that he feels undermines the public system. On the positive side he has since the ‘80s consistently voted for funds to the states for school reconstruction or modernization, after school programs, reduction of class size by hiring more teachers. He has always been outspoken in endorsing health care for disadvantaged children and adults, along with being a strong defender of Medicare and Medicaid, exemplified by voting against proposed cuts in 1995, and being a co-sponsor of the Patients’ Bill of Rights, a forgotten issue until Edwards brought it up last night. Kerry, too, has always been a champion of employees’ rights, such as bargaining rights for first responders in states against it. [I’m compelled to note that the NY firefighters — comfortably secure from bargaining rights — shamelessly support Bush.]

Thus, there is much for conservatives to criticize on the domestic front if they dare go there, rather than engage in arcane innuendos concerning presidential credentials of a legislator who does not have the luxury of administrative decisive actions. Odd that few questioned John Kennedy’s credentials, though he was a relatively nondescript legislator.

 

Copyright © 2004 Richard R. Kennedy All rights reserved. Revised: October 6, 2004.

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on Oct 06, 2004
In your own roundabout way, you have identified the reasdon that no sitting senator, since 1960, has been elected president.

Yes, administrative and senatorial actions are different. But the country needs a leader, not a bureaucrat. Governors have shown they can lead, even it is just 1/50 of the nation. Senators have never shown any leadership (Both Republicans and Democrats) in any thing except pontificating.
on Oct 06, 2004
"ather than engage in arcane innuendos concerning presidential credentials of a legislator who does not have the luxury of administrative decisive actions."


You say "luxury", others say "ability". The Senatorial hardships of riders and such are also good excuses to deal away good legislation for support on other legislation. To you it is obvious that it is a tax issue that kept Kerry from voting for the 87 billion, but the fact is that the vast majority of people that have consistantly fought the same fight on taxes voted FOR it. Kerry, dealing with an anti-war Dean in the primaries, didn't. To me, that is the far more obvious answer. Had the other fiscal, tax-and-spend Dems followed Kerry's example I would be more apt to agree with you.

The fact is, we don't like to elect legislators much in the executive branch. You point out that there are differences, and I agree, and I think those differences in personal will and ethics that make someone a good legislator generally make them a damn poor President. People like Lincoln and Kennedy are aberations, given the rare opportunity to make sweeping changes without much reciprocation. Kerry, though, will find himself alone in the White House with none of the under-the-table means he enjoys now for pushing his legislation through.

I think you'll find that Kerry has made a ton of promises he can't deliver on, and a bunch he never INTENDS to deliver on. I dread four years of a Kerry administration, but oh, the blogging will be good among all you people treating him like the second coming of Christ...
on Oct 06, 2004

dealing with an anti-war Dean in the primaries, didn't. To me, that is the far more obvious answer.
This was implied but wtih "nuance."
I think you'll find that Kerry has made a ton of promises he can't deliver on, and a bunch he never INTENDS to deliver on.
On this I agree.

all you people treating him like the second coming of Christ...
Can't go along with this.

on Oct 06, 2004
Senators have never shown any leadership
Recently true but history disputes this, eg. Profiles in Courage.
on Oct 06, 2004
Odd that few questioned John Kennedy’s credentials, though he was a relatively nondescript legislator.[\quote]

Actually, if you review the history of the time, [bold]many[\bold] people questioned his credentials and commitment to his legislative duties. The current popular notion of Kennedy's political sainthood is the result of viewing history through the prism of his assassination, which elevated him to a status he had not really earned in life. Lincoln's stature was similarly elevated by his assassination, magnifying the significance of his genuine accomplishments and virtues - it's human nature.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Oct 07, 2004
Touché, Daiwa.
on Oct 07, 2004
There are a lot of parallels, imho, between the campaign in '60 and this one, I think, especially in terms of debates. Nixon was the first Presidential candidate ripped to shreds because of his aesthetic presentation during a debate. Now, it seems presentation is about all we pay attention to.
on Oct 07, 2004
With no disrespect for JFK, Lincoln's leadership in the Civil War would have elevated him to a high status even if not assassinated.

You don't need to cherry pick obscure ammendments to see that Kerry's record has been soft on defense. In 1984 Kerry made his support of eliminating or severely reducing several defense programs a key campaign issue. In 1991, Kerry voted against ejecting Saddam from Kuwait.

If Kerry wants to tax "the rich", I would like to hear him justify tax increases on chapter S corporations and other small businesses that pay taxes under the invidividual tax code. Democrats seem to live to propagate the myth that most of the "rich" are people with too much money who want tax cuts so they can buy a bigger yacht. In reality, small businesses make up a large share of those with large incomes, and I don't see how raising taxes on a business helps that business to hire more people.
on Oct 07, 2004
Most "Chapter S" buisnesses are in the bottom 2 tax brackets. I am part of a Chapter S buisness, we make(as a whole) anywhere from $20 to $500 a month off it(profit). oooo wow we are really rich huh. Granted there are MANY Chapter S corps out there that make millions a month.
on Oct 07, 2004
In reality, small businesses make up a large share of those with large incomes, and I don't see how raising taxes on a business helps that business to hire more people.
You're parroting Republican spinoffs. The fact is most small businesses are indeed small and draw modest personal income. The profits are usually plowed back into the business and subject to writeoffs.
on Oct 07, 2004
I said: "Small business makes up a large share of large income earners".

I did not say: "Large income earners make up a large share of small businesses".

Regardless, I would still like to know how raising taxes on a business helps that business to hire more people.
on Oct 07, 2004

Reply #11 By: Madine - 10/7/2004 4:45:50 PM
I said: "Small business makes up a large share of large income earners".

I did not say: "Large income earners make up a large share of small businesses".

Regardless, I would still like to know how raising taxes on a business helps that business to hire more people


Good point! Take away from the profit and they have less capital to use towards payroll. Because they'll NEVER shrink the profit margin. They'll charge more for their products/services and or lay people off before that happens or they'll outsource a shit-pile of jobs overseas.
on Oct 08, 2004
They'll charge more for their products/services and or lay people off before that happens or they'll outsource a shit-pile of jobs overseas.
You have not faith!
I would still like to know how raising taxes on a business helps that business to hire more people.
Not a business but all business. If you circulate more pay round the country--as Henry Ford did--then all small business grows.
on Oct 08, 2004
Reply #13 By: stevendedalus - 10/8/2004 1:34:49 AM
They'll charge more for their products/services and or lay people off before that happens or they'll outsource a shit-pile of jobs overseas.
You have not faith!


Nope,not a drop!
on Oct 08, 2004

Senators have never shown any leadership


Recently true but history disputes this, eg. Profiles in Courage.


The trouble with absolutes (always, never) is that they are always wrong, and never right.

Sorry, I meant to say that in my life time, senators have not shown any leadership. Historically, some of the greatest politicians have come from the senate.

Point taken.
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